I just happened onto this tribe and although it was posted last year some time AI thought it would be interesting to share an experience I had several years ago as a radio journalist in LA. I was doing a series of live book interviews at one of the well know book stores in Santa Monica and I got a strange call from the publicist a Mr. Simon Mckrindle for the Castaneda Clan
more specifically a Ms, Florida Donner alias Ms, Castaneda. He said that Ms, Castaneda had heard several of my programs and was drawn to me and had a message from DJ. I was startled by the call to some extent but not particularly surprise to have received strange calls from publicist, authors, etc it was expected what was unusal was the message that she had a message from Don Juan that sent my sixth sense to tingling. Also the instructions when to contact her was also strange.
It was a week later at exactly 8pm which happened to me during a moon elipse. I called the number and Ms, Donner answered, she immediately quizzed me and ask me if I would agree to enter into a dreaming I agreed and we connected.
I can't tell you how it happen but it was like we were on some kind of plane outside of this perceptions. She explained to me who she was introduced me to several other older females and showed me the path I ask her what was the message Don Juan had for me and she said that I would meet him myself next time we meet. That experience was even more incrediable especially when I discover how amazingly sensual it was. Anyway I know all of this may be hard to believe except for those who have travelled the dream, suffice to say I'll never see the world the same again especially since I know now that their are so many others.
Blackhawke
more specifically a Ms, Florida Donner alias Ms, Castaneda. He said that Ms, Castaneda had heard several of my programs and was drawn to me and had a message from DJ. I was startled by the call to some extent but not particularly surprise to have received strange calls from publicist, authors, etc it was expected what was unusal was the message that she had a message from Don Juan that sent my sixth sense to tingling. Also the instructions when to contact her was also strange.
It was a week later at exactly 8pm which happened to me during a moon elipse. I called the number and Ms, Donner answered, she immediately quizzed me and ask me if I would agree to enter into a dreaming I agreed and we connected.
I can't tell you how it happen but it was like we were on some kind of plane outside of this perceptions. She explained to me who she was introduced me to several other older females and showed me the path I ask her what was the message Don Juan had for me and she said that I would meet him myself next time we meet. That experience was even more incrediable especially when I discover how amazingly sensual it was. Anyway I know all of this may be hard to believe except for those who have travelled the dream, suffice to say I'll never see the world the same again especially since I know now that their are so many others.
Blackhawke
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Re: My Strange Encounter with Castanada Don Juan Clan
Sat, March 3, 2007 - 8:15 PMastounding post, can't wait to hear more! -
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Thu, March 15, 2007 - 4:54 PMyes astounding post, too bad it's utter horseshit psychobabble! -
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Fri, March 16, 2007 - 9:36 AMpower has many forms,
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Sat, March 17, 2007 - 8:40 PMmy sincere apologies. the story felt evidently false to me, and i was perturbed that once again carlos's techniques and legacy were being abused. if you're going to try to add on to castaneda's magic, at least do it believably. i regret my tone, however. those of you who know me in this tribe know that i do not suffer delusion comfortably, but of course the problem may be that i am an arrogant idiot missing out on some important point, and what i think is delusion is actually wisdom... -
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Wed, September 19, 2007 - 11:07 AMDelusion and bona fide experience of reality are equally subjective.
In the world of everyday life, it is easy for people (us) to agree in consensus about what is so. That will not change what is so for me, however. That is because of what I choose in my awareness, including my perceptual boundaries.
Without shared experience and thus shared understanding (inasmuch as the inexplicable can be understood) we have nothing to talk about in the first place.
For me to tell you my personal experience of Second Attention, I could be exercising self importance. That isn't something I'm willing to waste my life force doing. I don't have the luxury of that kind of time. If we have no shared experience to illuminate, our connecting may even be tantamount to wasting my life force as I see it. Impeccability is the proper use of energy. If I'm not using what energy I have to further illuminate what is available to me (to know), what am I using it for?
Lastly, I recoil when I see the word "believe" anywhere. I've never chosen to exercise belief, even since I was a small child. If I don't know it somehow, then it sits with the rest on the dusty shelf of the unknown.
I think wisdom is in realizing the fact that what we don't and will not know, is far more vast than what we do and may ever know.
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Thu, September 20, 2007 - 5:18 PM"Delusion and bona fide experience of reality are equally subjective. "
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Fri, September 21, 2007 - 12:10 AMThe difference is, that in the first scenario, we are living in endless archtypes and cycles throughout the possible manifestation of humankind. However, because it is our individual projection of what is so, we are alone in it. We must reinforce our descriptions with others constantly in order to be valid, but we aren't. Still, the veil of our denial persists, unless of course we are totally ...blind. (Been lying to ourselves too hard and lost our mind?) The self importance trip enters in about here, I think.
But with bona fide experience there is no mask and what is so is seen to be so, whoever is seeing.
In the first, we struggle to maintain it's form. In the second, we can't escape it even if we try. I am still alone, but I have resources to deal with that now.
Ultimately, I'm unable (and have become unwilling) to grasp what I know is illusion of my own making and it is collapsed. My experience is now still my own. I am no more able to validate it with others, perhaps less so. But now that doesn't matter. I get to be astonished when, though I've only been being silent for a brief time, the universe somehow comes to me and shows me more of itself. Heh, then it happens again... That is as much of my experience as I can explain right now.
Perhaps I can rely on this going forward. That's my view.
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Mon, September 24, 2007 - 9:54 AMthis is great focalaxis, a wonderful start at differentiation. but i feel we can make steps further along the same lines and start to talk about experience vs. reality. this is my preferred way of speaking now. we participate in the act of experiencing with our perception and mentation, interacting with reality to construct our experience. however, neuroscience shows us that the brain is the organ whose job it is to assemble sensory inputs and translate them into experience, and sometimes the brain can experience things that do not map to actual sensory inputs or reality. to mistake such signals as being anchored in reality is a major pitfall. so, although i am 100% with you in lending validity to all experience, whether sharable or not, i think we can at times go so far as to say that some private experiences simply do not map to reality, i.e. they have no physical reference. -
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Re: My Strange Encounter with Castanada Don Juan Clan
Tue, September 25, 2007 - 3:54 PMOh, well that's precisely what I'm getting at then.
I'm dealing with source objects which otherwise don't fit into reason or logic frameworks. They may not appear physically or even objectively except when seeing or as a story about the seeing experience. Yes, and now I notice importance. As far as seeing is concerned, whatever the method of apprehension may otherwise be, the rule is that what is seen is what is so. In other words, seeing how we see or heh, asking the mechanism of our sight may not be instrumental to seeing what is or is so. Even that whether your method of apprehension is as mine is, that doesn't matter. When apprehending what is so we yet do share THAT experience and potentially, understanding. I want that.
Thank you, blue-j.
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Tue, September 25, 2007 - 6:32 PMthis is a lovely poem. thanks.
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