death of Castaneda's "Blue Scout" confirmed from remains found in Death Valley

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February 10, 2006

Remains of guru's disciple identified
BONES FOUND IN DEATH VALLEY CONFIRMED TO BE THOSE OF
PATRICIA PARTIN/NURY ALEXANDER

By ROBIN FLINCHUM
SPECIAL TO THE PVT
Shortly after the 1998 death of "A Separate Reality"
guru Carlos Castaneda, whose peyote-fueled sorceric
journeys into the Mexican desert captured the
imagination of a generation in the 1970s, five of his
closest disciples made out their wills, disconnected
their telephones, and disappeared into thin air.

Some believed the five women, three of whom were known
as "the witches," might have "burned from within," or
vaporized into balls of light that joined with the
eternal universe as Castaneda had promised to do but
failed. Last week, positive identification of a set of
human remains found in a remote area of Death Valley
National Park revealed that at least one of them had,
like Castaneda, died an ordinary human death.

Although the remains were actually found some three
years ago by a pair of hikers in the Panamint Dunes
region of the national park, the bones were so
desiccated that extracting a DNA sample proved
impossible at the time. However, according to Inyo
County Sheriff's investigator Marston Mottweiler, the
development of new forensic technology recently
produced a workable specimen.

Mottweiler said the sheriff's office had long
suspected that the remains were those of Patricia
Partin, also known as Nury Alexander, the adopted
daughter of Carlos Castaneda and one of his closest
disciples. The newly recovered specimen, when compared
to DNA samples taken from Partin's mother and three
sisters, proved Mottweiler's theory to be true.

Officially, the cause of Partin/Alexander's death is
undetermined. Only 70 percent of her skeleton was
recovered, along with a few scraps of a pair of pink
jogging pants. The skull was never found, but in a
land populated by hungry coyotes, this is not unusual.
After five years under a brutal desert sun, any
secrets the bones might have revealed were long ago
worn away.

But most who knew Partin/Alexander suspect that she
took her own life. Gaby Geuter, a retired Los Angeles
travel agent who had known Alexander for six years,
said she believed there were many compelling reasons
Alexander might have chosen suicide; disappointment
over Castaneda's ordinary death from liver cancer,
disappointment over not having been transported into
the infinite universe with her master, and an
inability to contemplate the future without her sole
source of financial and emotional support.

In his popular books, Castaneda had described how his
Yaqui teacher left the world in 1973 by "burning from
within," or dispersing his physical form into a ball
of light that joined with the universe. Castaneda's
followers believed he would leave the world the same
way, and that he might even take his closest followers
with him.

"The way Carlos died was a great disappointment,"
Geuter said. Castaneda had woven a web - a sort of
separate reality - around the women he supported in
his secluded Los Angeles home and, Geuter said, they
believed in him so strongly that his ordinary death
from a lingering form of liver cancer may have
shattered their confidence in the life they'd been
living for decades.

For Geuter, who began studying with Castaneda in
small, private workshops in the early 1990s, the news
of the identification of Alexander's bones was sad,
but not unexpected. Though she called Alexander's
death tragic, Geuter suspects the four other women
probably made the same choice.

During the last two years of his life, Geuter followed
Castaneda in secret, filming and documenting his
movements in order to learn whether the private man
truly lived the life he preached to his students. The
results of her quest were published in a book called
"Filming Castaneda; the Hunt for Magic and Reason."

Geuter first met Alexander at movement workshops given
by Castaneda in 1992. The master introduced Alexander
as his daughter and called her Blue Scout. The
sorcerer/philosopher sometimes told a tale of having
retrieved Alexander from another dimension when she
was only seven years old, and that she had been
educated in a Mexican orphanage. He often held her up
to his followers as a spirit being, a model of
perfection, and he legally adopted her in the
mid-1990s, making her an heir in his will.

In reality, Alexander had a more prosaic past. Born
Patricia Lee Partin in Pasadena, Calif., in 1957, she
grew up in a middle class home, the fourth of five
sisters. Partin dropped out of high school in the
1970s just as Carlos Castaneda's books, "A Separate
Reality" and "Tales of Power" were causing a cultural
phenomenon in the United States. Castaneda's claim to
have met a Yaqui Indian sorcerer in the Mexican desert
and to have learned from him the secrets of
controlling one's own reality appealed to a
disillusioned generation searching for something to
believe in.

Castaneda became an instant guru, though he led a
secluded and very private existence, forbidding
photographs of himself.

Partin met Castaneda in the late 1970s, soon changed
her name to Nury (or Nuri) Alexander, a name with
spiritual significance for her, and moved in with some
of Castaneda's female disciples. In his nearly 30-year
career, Castaneda's disciples tended to be attractive
women and the teacher/student relationship was also a
sexual one, according to many of the women who studied
with him.

One of these was Amy Wallace, daughter of celebrated
author Irving Wallace. Her recently released book "The
Sorcerer's Apprentice" detailed her life as
Castaneda's lover and student, and his voracious
appetite for physical/spiritual relationships with
women.

These relationships were often very intense, with his
closest disciples depending upon Castanada as an
emotional center as well as for their financial
support, according to Geuter. Among the women
Alexander, the Blue Scout, occupied a special place of
prominence. She was described by those who knew her as
temperamental, ethereal and driven by whim - as likely
to take her friends on a shopping spree or a trip to
Disneyland as to reject or insult them, according to a
chronology of her life published by another former
Castaneda student named Corey Donovan.

"She was very thin and fragile looking, childlike
almost," said Geuter, "but strong willed. She was
convinced of herself because she was Carlos' favorite
and was allowed to do things no one else would have
dared to do, like coming in late for workshops."

Alexander looked out of her thin, fragile body with a
pair of commanding, steely eyes that Castaneda often
made much of. But as to her temperament, Castaneda
once said, "her humanness is paper thin."

In keeping with Castaneda's insistence that his
disciples sever all ties with their families of
origin, Alexander stopped communicating with the
Partin family in the late 1970s and they never saw her
again. An attempt to contact her in the 1990s
reportedly ended badly when Alexander rebuffed her
family in particularly vicious terms.

But when investigators contacted members of the Partin
family asking for DNA samples to help identify the
bones, Alexander's mother and three of her sisters
readily contributed in an effort to finally put the
mystery of their missing sister to rest.

Alexander's disappearance was often lumped together
with that of the four other women who vanished, but
Geuter said she believes Alexander left at least
several days later. "We saw her driving around town
after the others were gone," Geuter said, "and it
surprised us." And, Geuter added, if the women had
gone together, Alexander's 1991 Ford Escort would not
have been the vehicle of choice when there were other
newer, larger vehicles available.

Alexander drove to Death Valley's remote Panamint
Dunes probably around the first or second of May,
where the parked Escort was spotted by park rangers.
They kept the vehicle under surveillance for nearly a
week, said Inyo County's Mottweiler, and then had it
impounded as abandoned. A notice was sent to the
address listed on the car registration, but no
response was received. A basic search of missing
person databases revealed no matches. Some time later,
the car was sold at a mechanic's auction and no one in
Inyo County paid the matter any further attention
until nearly five years later, when the remains were
discovered in the dunes some two and a half miles from
where the car was found.

In the pocket of the jogging pants recovered with the
remains was a knife, too small and flimsy to have been
an implement of self-destruction, but unusual and
familiar enough to convince Geuter that the remains
were those of Alexander. But for Mottweiler, even
though all the clues pointed in the direction of Nury
Alexander, conclusive evidence was lacking until last
week.

Now the mystery of at least one of Castaneda's missing
disciples is solved, and for the Partin family the
saga has come to an end. Mottweiler said the remains
would be released to the family, though he did not
know whether they had plans to conduct a memorial.

Whether Partin/Alexander actually killed herself or
succumbed to the Death Valley elements as so many
before her have done is impossible to say, said
Mottweiler, though there is currently no suspicion of
foul play.

Why she chose Death Valley also remains a mystery,
though Geuter had a theory. "The Castaneda story
starts in the desert," Geuter said, "and at least for
this woman it also ends in the desert."

The case remains officially open while the Inyo County
Coroner conducts final tests, but it seems likely that
Nury Alexander took her secrets with her, leaving only
Patricia Partin's scattered bones behind.
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  • more of the mounting evidence that carlos was a nut that took things a little too far. oh, but i love him and thank him for his gifts!
    • thank you brother!
      i was trying to figure out the right way to comment on this without sounding to either way, you know? youve asid it perfectly
      he went a bit too far as teh years went on and i think he lost sight of things a bit. he got a bit unstable and couldnt rebalance himself because he was simply surrounded by those that adored him and would do anything for him and believed in him whole heartedly. the battle against self importance is never over apparently, because i think this is what added to the final years of don carlos and him making himself look more like a nut then a warrior.
      i am eternally greatful for the gifts he has given to the world. to be an impeccable warrior is a long hard road, and sometimes, no matter who you are, you deviate because its just easier to be loved for whom you are then to be unknown and un noticed. i dont think don carlos could full let go of being recognized and adored.
      all this aside though
      i kinda wanna know what really happened to the blue scout now ^.^
      ok thats me for now!
      LOVE!!!!!
      • some magicians implement suicide as a form of reincanation . i read in liber null by peter carrol that he belives you can reincanate by suicide and transferring your conciouness into a baby before its born or the black rite where you use a grown person which can result in full possesion or a dual spirit. i dont know much about this stuff but anything is possible i guess. burning within might mean taking your own life to those people. anyway thers lots of harmful dogma out there.
        • too bad it's all wishful thinking and we actually don't get reincarnated. death advises me that it is final. can we by mystics and materialists? can we stop running from this reality?
          • Unsu...
             
            The Spirit does move on, but it doesn't know your face or your name. Linear reincarnation is a simplistic idea which isn't worthy of a Nagual.

            Its for those who cling to the tonal, and not a very interesting tonal at that.
            • i don't think the spirit maintains any boundaries either, so even non-linear reincarnation is a stretch. seems to me that the materialist explanation of what happens is pretty reasonable: our brain stops working, our consciousness disappears, and our body is eventually eaten by bacteria and worms and the like. so in a sense we continue to exist. we'll see! i know a lot of people who travel assume that the dreaming body exists after death, but i don't think it does. i think it's anchored in our brains.
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                I have been able to access the entire womb to tomb experience (every thought, sensation and experience) set of whole other beings while I was in certain visionary states.

                Something is recording it All. Reality appears to be a hologram with every moment of time intimately bound to every other moment, and thus every tangle of space-time in nonlocal connection to every other tangle. after all, just before the big bang, it was ALL part of a single quantum entanglement!
                • "Something is recording it All. Reality appears to be a hologram with every moment of time intimately bound to every other moment, and thus every tangle of space-time in nonlocal connection to every other tangle. after all, just before the big bang, it was ALL part of a single quantum entanglement!"

                  this is certainly a popularization of quatum mechanics right now, but on very shaky ground. fun to conjecture though, and i appreciate that you state things as conjecture when that's what they are. that keeps things down to earth!
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.
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                    I speak only of my own experience. The Castaneda books however many times speak of the Eagle's emanations though, which are described as connecting together in a holographic fashion.

                    even T S Eliot figured this out, in the first lines of "Burnt Norton". He is speaking of holographic time, he was a Sanskrit scholar by that point, and deeply thinking on Indian philosophy.

                    also Terence McKena and Philip K. Dick in his VALIS Exegesis.

                    Fred Allen Wolf, Nick Herbert both physicists.... non local connectedness was also directly measured in a laboratory in the Bell-Aspect experiments. They got a Nobel prize for it. That is hardly 'shaky ground'.
                    • "I speak only of my own experience."

                      experience is great, but it doesn't offer explanations simultaneously, which is what you're trying to suggest.

                      i've gotten into too many discussions lately about this kind of application of quantum mechanics. recall that you were making the claim of its relevance for reincarnation, and if you don't think that's shaky ground...


                      "Fred Allen Wolf, Nick Herbert both physicists.... non local connectedness was also directly measured in a laboratory in the Bell-Aspect experiments. They got a Nobel prize for it."

                      i know these fellows and doubted they won a nobel, and can't find any evidence that they have. herbert was nominated for the peace prize and lost... that's about it. am i wrong?

                      we can get into it sometime soon; i just did with someone for a month in a private tribe though, and am worn out... peace!
                      • Unsu...
                         
                        Aspect and Bell got the Nobel. look it up, its considered the most significant experiment in all of physics post 1950.

                        i did not equate quantum mechanics with "reincarnation", but with the nonlocal connectedness of all time and space. which means we are connected to everything that has ever lived or ever will live, but ALL of it and not serially.

                        I don't believe in or support any conventional notion of reincarnation. Now Carlos Castaneda DID believe in such, but he was very cagey about it.

                        this needs discussion, it is unclear - a murky area of his philosophy.
                        • "Aspect and Bell got the Nobel. look it up, its considered the most significant experiment in all of physics post 1950"

                          i did look it up and i can't find it! i thought you were saying wolf won before, as well, and i knew without checking that he had not.

                          almaz.com/nobel/physics/physics.html
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                            Alain Aspect (born 15 June 1947 in Agen) is a French physicist and alumnus of the École Normale Supérieure de Cachan in France. In the early 1980s, with collaborators in France, he performed the crucial "Bell test experiments" that showed that Albert Einstein, Boris Podolsky & Nathan Rosen's reductio ad absurdum of quantum mechanics, namely that it implied 'ghostly action at a distance', did in fact appear to be realised when two particles were separated by an arbitrarily large distance. A correlation between their wave functions remained, as they were once part of the same wave function that was not disturbed before one of the child particles was measured.

                            If quantum theory is correct, the determination of an axis direction for polarisation measurement of one particle, forcing the wave function to 'collapse' onto that axis, will influence the measurement of its twin even if this is on a distant star. This influence occurs despite the experimenters concerned not knowing which axes have been chosen by their distant colleagues.

                            Aspect's experiments were considered to provide overwhelming support to the thesis that Bell's inequalities are violated in its CHSH version.

                            Bell's theorem is the most famous legacy of the late John Bell. It is notable for showing that the predictions of quantum mechanics (QM) differ from those of intuition. It is simple and elegant, and touches upon fundamental philosophical issues that relate to modern physics. In its simplest form, Bell's theorem states:

                            No physical theory of local hidden variables can ever reproduce all of the predictions of quantum mechanics.

                            This theorem has even been called "the most profound in science" (Stapp, 1975). Bell's seminal 1964 paper was entitled "On the Einstein Podolsky Rosen paradox". The Einstein Podolsky Rosen paradox (EPR paradox) assumes local realism, the intuitive notion that particle attributes have definite values independent of the act of observation and that physical effects have a finite propagation speed. Bell showed that local realism leads to a requirement for certain types of phenomena that are not present in quantum mechanics. This requirement is called Bell's inequality.

                            Different authors subsequently derived similar inequalities, collectively termed Bell inequalities, that also assume local realism. That is, they assume that each quantum-level object has a well defined state that accounts for all its measurable properties and that distant objects do not exchange information faster than the speed of light. These well defined properties are often called hidden variables, the properties that Einstein posited when he stated his famous objection to quantum mechanics: "[God] does not play dice."

                            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bohm

                            homepages.ihug.co.nz/~sai/pribram.htm

                            David Bohm and the Implicate Order


                            David Pratt


                            The death of David Bohm on 27 October 1992 is a great loss not only for the physics community but for all those interested in the philosophical implications of modern science. David Bohm was one of the most distinguished theoretical physicists of his generation, and a fearless challenger of scientific orthodoxy. His interests and influence extended far beyond physics and embraced biology, psychology, philosophy, religion, art, and the future of society. Underlying his innovative approach to many different issues was the fundamental idea that beyond the visible, tangible world there lies a deeper, implicate order of undivided wholeness.

                            David Bohm was born in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, in 1917. He became interested in science at an early age; as a young boy he invented a dripless teapot, and his father, a successful businessman, urged him to try to make a profit on the idea. But after learning that the first step was to conduct a door-to-door survey to test market demand, his interest in business waned and he decided to become a theoretical physicist instead.

                            In the 1930s he attended Pennsylvania State College where he became deeply interested in quantum physics, the physics of the subatomic realm. After graduating, he attended the University of California, Berkeley. While there he worked at the Lawrence Radiation Laboratory where, after receiving his doctorate in 1943, he began what was to become his landmark work on plasmas (a plasma is a gas containing a high density of electrons and positive ions). Bohm was surprised to find that once electrons were in a plasma, they stopped behaving like individuals and started behaving as if they were part of a larger and interconnected whole. He later remarked that he frequently had the impression that the sea of electrons was in some sense alive.

                            In 1947 Bohm took up the post of assistant professor at Princeton University, where he extended his research to the study of electrons in metals. Once again the seemingly haphazard movements of individual electrons managed to produce highly organized overall effects. Bohm's innovative work in this area established his reputation as a theoretical physicist.

                            In 1951 Bohm wrote a classic textbook entitled Quantum Theory, in which he presented a clear account of the orthodox, Copenhagen interpretation of quantum physics. The Copenhagen interpretation was formulated mainly by Niels Bohr and Werner Heisenberg in the 1920s and is still highly influential today. But even before the book was published, Bohm began to have doubts about the assumptions underlying the conventional approach. He had difficulty accepting that subatomic particles had no objective existence and took on definite properties only when physicists tried to observe and measure them. He also had difficulty believing that the quantum world was characterized by absolute indeterminism and chance, and that things just happened for no reason whatsoever. He began to suspect that there might be deeper causes behind the apparently random and crazy nature of the subatomic world.

                            Bohm sent copies of his textbook to Bohr and Einstein. Bohr did not respond, but Einstein phoned him to say that he wanted to discuss it with him. In the first of what was to turn into a six-month series of spirited conversations, Einstein enthusiastically told Bohm that he had never seen quantum theory presented so clearly, and admitted that he was just as dissatisfied with the orthodox approach as Bohm was. They both admired quantum theory's ability to predict phenomena, but could not accept that it was complete and that it was impossible to arrive at any clearer understanding of what was going on in the quantum realm.

                            It was while writing Quantum Theory that Bohm came into conflict with McCarthyism. He was called upon to appear before the Un-American Activities Committee in order to testify against colleagues and associates. Ever a man of principle, he refused. The result was that when his contract at Princeton expired, he was unable to obtain a job in the USA. He moved first to Brazil, then to Israel, and finally to Britain in 1957, where he worked first at Bristol University and later as Professor of Theoretical Physics at Birkbeck College, University of London, until his retirement in 1987. Bohm will be remembered above all for two radical scientific theories: the causal interpretation of quantum physics, and the theory of the implicate order and undivided wholeness.

                            In 1952, the year after his discussions with Einstein, Bohm published two papers sketching what later came to be called the causal interpretation of quantum theory, and he continued to elaborate and refine his ideas until the end of his life. The causal interpretation, says Bohm, 'opens the door for the creative operation of underlying, and yet subtler, levels of reality' [1]. In his view, subatomic particles such as electrons are not simple, structureless particles, but highly complex, dynamic entities. He rejected the view that their motion is fundamentally uncertain or ambiguous; they follow a precise path, but one which is determined not only by conventional physical forces but also by a subtler force which he calls the quantum potential. The quantum potential guides the motion of particles by providing 'active information' about the whole environment. Bohm gives the analogy of a ship being guided by radar signals: the radar carries information from all around and guides the ship by giving form to the movement produced by the much greater but unformed power of its engines.

                            The quantum potential pervades all space and provides direct connections between quantum systems. In 1959 Bohm and a young research student Yakir Aharonov discovered an important example of quantum interconnectedness. They found that in certain circumstances electrons are able to 'feel' the presence of a nearby magnetic field even though they are traveling in regions of space where the field strength is zero. This phenomenon is now known as the Aharonov-Bohm (AB) effect, and when the discovery was first announced many physicists reacted with disbelief. Even today, despite confirmation of the effect in numerous experiments, papers still occasionally appear arguing that it does not exist.

                            In 1982 a remarkable experiment to test quantum interconnectedness was performed by a research team led by physicist Alain Aspect in Paris. The original idea was contained in a thought experiment (also known as the 'EPR paradox') proposed in 1935 by Albert Einstein, Boris Podolsky, and Nathan Rosen, but much of the later theoretical groundwork was laid by David Bohm and one of his enthusiastic supporters, John Bell of CERN, the physics research center near Geneva. The results of the experiment are said to have shown that subatomic particles that are far apart are able to communicate in ways that cannot be explained by the transfer of physical signals traveling at or slower than the speed of light. Many physicists regard these 'nonlocal' connections as absolutely instantaneous. An alternative view is that they involve subtler, nonphysical energies traveling faster than light, but this view has few adherents since most physicists still believe that nothing can exceed the speed of light.

                            The causal interpretation of quantum theory initially met with indifference or hostility from other physicists, who did not take kindly to Bohm's powerful challenge to the common consensus. In recent years, however, the theory has been gaining increasing 'respectability'. Bohm's approach is capable of being developed in different directions. For instance, a number of physicists, including Jean-Pierre Vigier and several other physicists at the Institut Henri Poincaré in France, explain the quantum potential in terms of fluctuations in an underlying ether.

                            In the 1960s Bohm began to take a closer look at the notion of order. One day he saw a device on a television program that immediately fired his imagination. It consisted of two concentric glass cylinders, the space between them being filled with glycerin, a highly viscous fluid. If a droplet of ink is placed in the fluid and the outer cylinder is turned, the droplet is drawn out into a thread that eventually becomes so thin that it disappears from view; the ink particles are enfolded into the glycerin. But if the cylinder is then turned in the opposite direction, the thread-form reappears and rebecomes a droplet; the droplet is unfolded again. Bohm realized that when the ink was diffused through the glycerin it was not in a state of 'disorder' but possessed a hidden, or nonmanifest, order.

                            In Bohm's view, all the separate objects, entities, structures, and events in the visible or explicate world around us are relatively autonomous, stable, and temporary 'subtotalities' derived from a deeper, implicate order of unbroken wholeness. Bohm gives the analogy of a flowing stream:

                            On this stream, one may see an ever-changing pattern of vortices, ripples, waves, splashes, etc., which evidently have no independent existence as such. Rather, they are abstracted from the flowing movement, arising and vanishing in the total process of the flow. Such transitory subsistence as may be possessed by these abstracted forms implies only a relative independence or autonomy of behaviour, rather than absolutely independent existence as ultimate substances. [2]

                            We must learn to view everything as part of 'Undivided Wholeness in Flowing Movement' [3].

                            Another metaphor Bohm uses to illustrate the implicate order is that of the hologram. To make a hologram a laser light is split into two beams, one of which is reflected off an object onto a photographic plate where it interferes with the second beam. The complex swirls of the interference pattern recorded on the photographic plate appear meaningless and disordered to the naked eye. But like the ink drop dispersed in the glycerin, the pattern possesses a hidden or enfolded order, for when illuminated with laser light it produces a three-dimensional image of the original object, which can be viewed from any angle. A remarkable feature of a hologram is that if a holographic film is cut into pieces, each piece produces an image of the whole object, though the smaller the piece the hazier the image. Clearly the form and structure of the entire object are encoded within each region of the photographic record.

                            Bohm suggests that the whole universe can be thought of as a kind of giant, flowing hologram, or holomovement, in which a total order is contained, in some implicit sense, in each region of space and time. The explicate order is a projection from higher dimensional levels of reality, and the apparent stability and solidity of the objects and entities composing it are generated and sustained by a ceaseless process of enfoldment and unfoldment, for subatomic particles are constantly dissolving into the implicate order and then recrystallizing.

                            The quantum potential postulated in the causal interpretation corresponds to the implicate order. But Bohm suggests that the quantum potential is itself organized and guided by a superquantum potential, representing a second implicate order, or superimplicate order. Indeed he proposes that there may be an infinite series, and perhaps hierarchies, of implicate (or 'generative') orders, some of which form relatively closed loops and some of which do not. Higher implicate orders organize the lower ones, which in turn influence the higher.

                            Bohm believed that life and consciousness are enfolded deep in the generative order and are therefore present in varying degrees of unfoldment in all matter, including supposedly 'inanimate' matter such as electrons or plasmas. He suggests that there is a 'protointelligence' in matter, so that new evolutionary developments do not emerge in a random fashion but creatively as relatively integrated wholes from implicate levels of reality. The mystical connotations of Bohm's ideas are underlined by his remark that the implicate domain 'could equally well be called idealism, spirit, consciousness. The separation of the two -- matter and spirit -- is an abstraction. The ground is always one.' [4]

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